Integration… (You need names for things!)

Integration…

You need names 

for things!

"All things come out of the One and the One out of all things.

 I see nothing but Becoming. Be not deceived! It is the fault of your limited outlook and not the fault of the essence of things if you believe that you see firm land anywhere in the ocean of Becoming and Passing. You need names for things, just as if they had a rigid permanence, but the very river in which you bathe a second time is no longer the same one which you entered before."

Heraclitus. 500 B.C.

"O que significa a palavra `integração´? 

Significa unir ou harmonizar, reunindo diferentes partes. Ora, não podeis integrar o corpo, a mente e os sentimentos, porque estão sempre fragmentados por vós. Não é possível reunir o que está fragmentado pelo conflito interior.

Tende a bondade de prestar a isto um pouco de atenção. Todos nós gostamos muito desta palavra `integração´ . Os políticos a empregam, aplicam-na os psicólogos, e nós também gostamos de tagarelar, discorrer de diferentes maneiras sobre essa palavra. 

`Integrar´ faz supor uma entidade que está a juntar as diversas partes, uma entidade exterior ou interior, que está a colocar os fragmentos em
harmónica justaposição. Enquanto existir a entidade que força para `integrar´, não haverá integração, pois existe contradição, uma divisão
entre a entidade e as partes que estão separadas, entre a ideia e o facto. Há um conflito, criado pelo esforço que se faz para juntar os vários fragmentos, e toda `integração´ assim feita nada significa.

Ainda que muito falemos sobre isso, a integração não é possível. Mas, se tiverdes penetrado fundo na questão e compreendido a impossibilidade
da integração enquanto existe uma entidade que procura reunir os fragmentos, se tiverdes compreendido isso completamente, vereis então que se verifica uma operação bem diferente. Não há então entidade nenhuma, e assim, nenhuma contradição, e por conseguinte, existe harmonia. E só nesse estado isento de esforço, de fragmentos para reunir, em que o percebimento é total, sensível, só então há possibilidade de haver o que chamamos Amor."

PERGUNTA: Toda a técnica implica esforço, ajustamento, disciplina, resultado, e o que dizeis parece negá-lo. Isso é exacto?

J. KRISHNAMURTI: 

Senhor, esta é uma questão imensa, e não desejo 

examiná-la agora. Faremos isto noutra ocasião. Mas, para compreender, 

a pessoa precisa realmente estar livre de esforço, de todas as 

técnicas, métodos, sistemas, e não, simplesmente, dizer:`Bem, agora 

vou viver sem fazer esforço´, pois isso não significa coisa nenhuma.

Antes de concluir, desejo voltar ao que estive a dizer no começo 

desta reunião.

Estar só, sem se retirar da sociedade, sem se tomar eremita, é 

algo extraordinário. A pessoa está só, porque compreendeu o significado 

da influência, da autoridade. Compreendeu inteiramente a 

questão da memória, do condicionamento, e em virtude dessa compreensão, 

surge uma solidão inatingível pela influência. E não tendes 

ideia de quanta beleza há nessa solidão, e que extraordinário sentimento

de virtude, ou seja de vitalidade, pujança, força, ela encerra.

Mas isso requer que compreendamos a fundo o nosso condicionamento."

Jiddu Krishnamurti

"O homem e os seus desejos em conflito"

"Every age, every culture, every custom and tradition has its own character, its own weakness and its own strength, it beauties and ugliness; accepts certain sufferings as matters of course, puts up patiently with certain evils. Human life is reduced to real suffering, to hell, only when two ages, two cultures and religions overlap... Now there are times when a whole generation is caught in this way between two ages, two modes of life, with the consequence that it loses all power to understand itself and has no standard, no security, no simple acquiescence. Naturally, every one does not feel this equally strongly."

(...)

"Our leaders strain every nerve and with success, to get the next war going, while the rest of us, meanwhile, dance the fox trot, earn money and eat chocolates...And perhaps...it has always been the same and always will be, and what is called history at school, and all we learn by heart there about heroes and geniuses and great deeds and fine emotions, is all nothing but a swindle invented by the schoolmasters for educational reasons to keep children occupied for a given number of years. It has always been so and always will be. Time and the world, money and power belong to the small people and shallow people. To the rest, to the real men belongs nothing...eternity...it isn't fame. Fame exists in that sense only for the schoolmasters. No, it isn't fame. It is what I call eternity...The music of Mozart belongs there and the poetry of your great poets. The saints, too, belong there, who have worked wonders and suffered martyrdom and given a great example to men. But the image of every true act, the strength of every true feeling, belongs to eternity just as much, even though no one knows of it or sees it or records it or hands it down to posterity. In eternity there is no posterity...It is the kingdom on the other side of time and appearances. It is there we belong. There is our home. It is that which our heart strives for...And we have no one to guide us. Our only guide is our homesickness."

(...)

"Every age, every culture, every custom and tradition has its own character, its own weakness and its own strength, it beauties and ugliness; accepts certain sufferings as matters of course, puts up patiently with certain evils. Human life is reduced to real suffering, to hell, only when two ages, two cultures and religions overlap... Now there are times when a whole generation is caught in this way between two ages, two modes of life, with the consequence that it loses all power to understand itself and has no standard, no security, no simple acquiescence. Naturally, every one does not feel this equally strongly."

(...)

"We who bore the mark might well be considered by the rest of the world as strange, even as insane and dangerous. We had awoken, or were awakening, and we were striving for an ever perfect state of wakefulness, whereas the ambition and quest for happiness of the others consisted of linking their opinions, ideals, and duties, their life and happiness, ever more closely with those of the herd. They, too, strove; they, too, showed signs of strength and greatness. But as we saw it, whereas we marked men represented Nature's determination to create something new, individual, and forward-looking, the others lived in the determination to stay the same. For them mankind - which they loved as much as we did - was a fully formed entity that had to be preserved and protected. For us mankind was a distant future toward which we were all journeying, whose aspect no one knew, whose laws weren't written down anywhere."

Hermann Hesse

"Steppenwolf" 

"Demian"

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